GNC Stores to Stop Selling Ephedra

by Mario Lozano on May 2, 2003 · 163 comments

in Ephedra

General Nutrition Centers, the largest U.S. specialty retailer of nutritional supplements, said it would discontinue the sale of all products that include ephedra, a weight-loss chemical that has been linked to serious side effects.

“We believe that ephedra-based products are safe when used as directed,” said GNC President and Chief Executive Michael Meyers. “Nonetheless, the current business climate dictates that we move in a different direction.”

The American Heart Association in April urged for a ban on all ephedra products.

“There is no such thing as a magic weight loss pill and anyone who takes these products looking for a quick fix is misleading themselves,” said Dr. Robert Bonow, Heart Association president, at the time.

(via Reuters)

{ 163 comments }

1 Matthew May 8, 2005 at 9:30 am

Everybody listen up. I have found a combo that works. I was going crazy trying to find an ephedra based product. I finally found what works. First google search Vasopro Ephedrine. These tabs contain 25mg of pharmacutical grade ephedrine. This product is marketed as a decongestant. The herbal supplement was banned but not the drug form. But that is only half of what made the old ephedra mix work. You still need caffine and some other things. So go buy the ephedra free capsules of whatever you used to take ie. epherda free yellow swarm, or stacker2 or stacker3. just whatever suits you. Take 1 of the ephedra free capsules to every 2 ephedrine tabs. What you have is a combo just like the old ephera based products. It gives you energy and appitite control. Please someone confirm this by posting a follow up message for everbody. I ordered my Vasopro Ephedrine tabs from getbuf.com $12.80 for 48 tabs shipped. It took 1 solid week to get to me though. It works for me.

2 Jean May 8, 2005 at 11:34 pm

I am soo mad. I have been trying EVERYTHING to lose weight(25-35 #) I exercise an hour and a half a day and watch carbs and my weight wont come off! I am even taking stupid Zantrex 3 which doesnt work. 2 years ago I lost weight without even trying(only need to lose 5 then) with Metabolife 356, I think it might have even been metabolite? didnt that one still have ephedra too. Anyways if ANYONE knows where I can get some and not for tons of $$$ PLEASE PLEASE email me. I think its worse what they have done to people by banning this, at least when I took this before I wasnt depressed. I will take my risks! To me this isnt half as bad as some other things(smoking causes death too, it just takes longer, stupid FDA) This better come back, I want to be able to wear a bathing suit for summer.******* stupid people. Thanks so much guys and if anyone has any info, like I said PLEASE let me know! Jean

3 Hilda May 9, 2005 at 11:23 am

Me too please! If anyone knows where I can purchase Xenadrine RFA-1 (best stuff ever)! I live in Dallas, TX or if I can purchase on-line! Thanks so much…Xenadrine gave me great energy & weight loss was fast with light dumb bells weight lifting & walking 3-4 miles 3-4 times a week. I’m desperate to purchase more Xenadrine RFA-1.

4 gail May 10, 2005 at 5:48 am

Who ever is looking for stacker 2,3 or truckers luv it should check out thatswholesale.com they have some on there.

5 Sarah May 10, 2005 at 2:31 pm

Quick Please! Which one works better, Lipo 6 or Power Thin(with ephedra) Thanks so much guys!

6 Amy May 18, 2005 at 1:03 pm

I am on day 3 of powerthin. I also found a supplier for Stacker 2 with Ephedra.

7 Meggy-moo May 29, 2005 at 9:10 pm

Hello guys i too would really love to get my hands on a bottle of some good ephedra.. before the ban i was taking matabolite with ephedra and lost like 60-70lbs. in like one year it was the best stuff ever… anyone haveing any great results with the new ephedra there taking let me know….. PLEASE i have already gained like 20 lbs back i hate my self for it! mapje@aol.com

8 chris May 30, 2005 at 4:24 pm

I never realized how many other people need ephedra. Its kinda crazy, but I am with all you guys too! I hope they bring it back, I have never weighed so much in my life as I do right now. Plus I like the energy, if anyone knows about any news w/ ephedra, please let me know. Is it sold in utah now? or when are they making the decision?

9 Al May 30, 2005 at 5:45 pm

Info on where to obtain ephedra based weight loss aids would be much appreciated!!

10 Laurie May 30, 2005 at 6:50 pm

I’ve always flirted with the idea of using ephedra. I have two friends who went from fat to bikini slim in a matter of months by using Stackers and now I’m trying to get my hands on some. Cigarettes and alchohol kill more people everyday than epehdra. The gov. should definitely lift this stupid ban.

11 Meggy-Moo June 2, 2005 at 12:34 pm

Tc if you ever come back on this web page i use to take the same stuff (matabolite) i was wondering if you found anything that is working for you now or if you remeber who put the stuff out on the market! If you could get back to me that would be cool!

Thanks

Megan

12 Deb June 3, 2005 at 6:26 am

I too have been looking for Stacker 3 with ephedra, since they banned it I gained about 20 lbs. I heard the FDA has 90 days to appeal it before we will see it anywhere to buy again.

13 Karen June 7, 2005 at 4:31 pm

Like everyone here. I am also looking for ephedra. I had lost 60lbs about 3yrs ago to which I now gained back 30. I am miserable. Please someone help with any kind of info.

Thanks

14 Amy June 7, 2005 at 10:43 pm

I have purchased Stacker 2 with Ephedra from Netnutri.com They also have Stacker 3 and 6 other Ephedra products. HURRY…they may have to stop selling June 13th when the FDA is required to respond to the Utah ruling.

15 Scott June 12, 2005 at 11:14 pm

Bought powerthin just got it starting it tomarrow any body have any comments. I used to take RFA-1 looking for the same effect. By the way the only problem is the people who make these products don’t want to start again because they don’t wanna spend the money on making this product and then it gets banned again. So hopefully the band will stay lifted and powerthin works.

16 Cindi June 13, 2005 at 12:01 pm

Does anyone know if it’s legal to sell your own ephedra pills? I tried to sell some of my Metabolift stash on Ebay, but they pulled my listing, and sent me a notice that I violated their drug policy. I’ve seen other listings on Ebay for the exact same stuff though! I’ve seen bottles of 60 capsules go for over $100 (!), so I’d love to put my mine up for sale too. I know they can’t retail new bottles anymore, but I think you should be allowed to sell any personal bottles you already have. Any legal way to sell this? Thanks!

17 Scott June 13, 2005 at 12:38 pm

started powerthin today and it works well feel like i felt 2 years ago. Not as strong as rfa-1 but take 2 at a time twice a day and it feels the same. Nice product. Buy the way did any body here what happen with then BAN today was the day they were supposed to make the ruling. any info?

18 Amy June 13, 2005 at 3:56 pm

As I was researching to see if any response from the FDA regarding the Utah ruling had been posted, I came across some interesting articles on the original April 14th Utah ruling. Both stated that the judge’s language was specific to products with less than 10 mg as a daily dose (as was the case with the Utah manaufacturer’s product in question). It also seems that the 3 states which also have state bans-CA, IL and NY-this ruling would have no effect at all. Most ephedra products have a per dose quantity of 20-25 mg of ephedra. My conclusion is that esentially no ephedra products are no legal to sell unless they have a 10 mg total per day dosage level (not per dose!). I did find it a little odd that I was able to have Stacker 2 sent to me. I have 8 bottles in my stash now. I also have 2 bottles of Powerthin, which I had to send to a friend in another state since I am in CA and Powerthin declined to ship to me, and she then sent it on to me. I feel lucky to have pills with 25mg of ephedra per capsule in my possesion based on what I just read.

19 Kararnmi June 13, 2005 at 4:36 pm

Regarding Vasopro, doesn’t the decongestant ingredient (is it dmx?) dry you out when your taking it? I’ve seen that product and considered it but wonder about the anticholinergic effects of the other ingredient. I’m in the same boat as everyone else, gained back 40lbs, in spite of starving to death on 4 protein shakes a day (only) and exercising like crazy. I don’t think it has to do with self-control, or appetite suppression. From what I gather, you already naturally have ephedrine in your body, introduce high doses of a synthetic form and your body suppresses it’s own production, stop the synthetic form and your left with nothing. The herbal ephedra in the new products on the market are weaker, not just the dose but I believe it comes from a different part of the mau huang plant. Anyone with more info in this area? So basically we all need to stay on ephedra forever, I’d opt for that option considering the alternative…diabetes, heart disease, joint replacement. For six years I took metabolife 356, never more than 4 pills a day and usually only two (after the weight came off) and never had any adverse affects. I think the problems that led to the ban on ephedra have more to do with abuse of the drug or personal susceptibility to cardiac arrhythmias/heart failure, combining other drugs (steroids?) or what not. What do you think?

20 uros June 16, 2005 at 7:17 am

hi everybody. this is just something i’ve been working on for one month or so. feel free to check it out:

uros2.net

dol28.net

cmy01.net

i’ve read through your website. some very interesting stuff i found. keep the good work going.

thanks. you’re the best:)

bye

21 melanie June 21, 2005 at 10:17 am

I totally agree with ephedra for weight loss. I was taking xenadrine rfa-1 and lost 30 pounds on it. Since then I have gained about 15 back and am looking for the product again. It was great and nothing out here in the ephedra-free world compares to it. Does anyone know where I can get this product ?

22 Andream June 21, 2005 at 11:39 am

You guys,

I can’t believe I have found the real stackers. I just got in the mail the other day, and have tried one already, and it feels like the real thing, and also states the same ingredients as the real original stuff, it’s definetely the real stuff, I’m so glad. I’ll check this website later to see who’s interested, I’m so shocked, I know I probably sound stupid, but I get the same feeling from it as I did before, I can’t believe,

23 melanie June 21, 2005 at 1:51 pm

Hey I’ll even try the stackers you just received. I’m sure it has the same feeling as xenadrine so let me know where you got them.

24 chip June 22, 2005 at 2:36 pm

melanie you can still order ephedra products from a couple of sites. since companies are not manufacturing it anymore, they can only sell what they have in stock, which is a very limited supply. go to http://www.acnedoctor.com, and you should still be able to purchase ephedra products there. if not email me back

chip

25 Andream June 22, 2005 at 3:23 pm

Melanie,

The person whom I get this from(original STACKER 2 WITH EPHEDRA), is one of my friend’s friend, don’t really know him. But I got about 3-4 months worth of original stacker 2. I paid $75 for 100 pills/bottle. He won’t tell me where he got them from, and doesn’t want too many to know he sells them either, so I’ll just tell him they’re for me. I just ordered some more, too.

I remember I only used to pay about $50-60 dollars per bottle, but don’t care, as long as I can still get them.

Like I’ve said if you’re interested email me, and I can give you my cell phone #, if you’d like, and we can talk about how I can send you some, if you’d like.

26 Andream June 22, 2005 at 3:32 pm

Melanie, and anyone else out there, who have used Stacker 2 with Ephedra, and has never abused it, and would like to get some from, please let me know. I’m willing to give out my cell phone #, so you don’t have to worry about this being any sort of scam or anything, and we can talk about it over the phone. I’m just completely rebelling about all this LAW BAN crap, I can’t believe that we have to suffer, because idiots don’t know how to use these kind of drugs, or abuses them. My email is bailamesuave@yahoo.com

27 Mandie July 2, 2005 at 12:55 pm

I am curious as to how much weight any of you have lost on ephedra products. Im thinking of trying Stacker II with ephedra. Can you give me a time frame and how much weight you lost?

Thanks!

28 Natalie July 3, 2005 at 2:00 pm

I am 22 here and have always had a weight problem. When I started working out with Hydroxycut with the ephedra. I lost 70 pounds in 6 months! Now after a year and a half I have gained 50 pounds back. THIS IS UNFAIR! Ephedra really helped me! And Im not a lazy ass. I’ve played softball for 9 years and NCAA ice hockey. Im a very active person. The Hydroxycut is the only thing that helped me. I live in IL so we are tough ass retards when it comes to this ban thing. Does anyone know how I can get something like the Hydroxycut? Im even willing to drive to Canada!!! Please e-mail me! I want to be able to go out with my friends again and be happy and have a good time.

Natalie

29 sara July 6, 2005 at 2:30 pm

Hey, I live in Utah.. looking for these black pills I took 5 years ago… can’t remember what they were.. but they stopped selling them… they had ephedra.. Now Utah lifted the ban?

30 Bonnie July 9, 2005 at 4:21 pm

I just bought Lipodrene at a GNC store in NC and have lost about 4 lbs in just a few days. I was wanting to know if anyone who has used it or anything similar and then quit, gained back weight even if they ate a balanced diet and did some exercise? I sure don’t want to have to take it for the rest of my life to keep weight off!

Thanks for any input. Please email me personally as I usually don’t have much time other than to check my emails as I’m raising 3 grandchildren who keep me quite occupied to say the least :-)

31 SARA July 9, 2005 at 9:49 pm

OKAY…”TOTAL CONTROL” BLACK pills.. ON THE BLACK ONES WORKED

like 4 or 5 years ago… They were the BEST DIET PILL IN THE WORLD!!!!!

Anybody have any info?????? an old bottle???? Number or somethin’???? PLEASE PLEASE…

32 Melanie July 10, 2005 at 2:22 pm

Hello everyone….wow! Its crazy to see just how many people feel the same and have gone through the same thing. I too have lost 65 pounds with ephedrine. And I am looking for Xenadrine with ephedrine also. I am glad to have found this site. I will keep reading and keep posted of the search everyone has. Thanks for the info….

33 Chris Brown July 15, 2005 at 8:30 pm

These fkn whores at the FDA are completely out of control. There are many hundreds of deaths each year associated with aspirin and acetaminophen. (By some estimates, aspirin- related deaths alone number more than 1,000 per year.) These pain killers are manufactured by many companies, but the major players are Bayer (the maker of Bayer Aspirin, of course), and Johnson & Johnson (the maker of Tylenol) – two of the largest drug companies in the world. They both have deep pockets to fuel very aggressive lobbying efforts in Washington.

It’s becoming unreal in this country exactly how powerful the FDA is. They can pass laws with regard to food or drugs that congress doesn’t even have to approve. Can someone please explain to me how 13 of the last 20 heads of the FDA have gone on to become CEO’s at pharmaceutical corporations? hmmm?

34 Melanie S. July 16, 2005 at 12:16 pm

Hey Melanie…How long did it take for your package to come in for your Stacker? I ordered 2 bottles of the Diet Fuel from the same company last week…Hopefully it works well…And hopefully it gets here soon. How is the Stacker working for you?

Melanie S.

35 Joe July 19, 2005 at 11:44 am

Same issue as Cindi above. I have ephedra (356) but dont know if it’s legal to sell ? I tried to sell some of my Metabolife on Ebay, but they pulled my listing, and sent me a notice that I violated their drug policy. I’ve seen other listings on Ebay for the exact same stuff though! I’ve seen bottles of 60 capsules go for over $100 (!), so I’d love to put my mine up for sale too. I know they can’t retail new bottles anymore, but I think you should be allowed to sell any personal bottles you already have. Any legal way to sell this?

36 Jessica July 19, 2005 at 12:27 pm

I took Metabolife 356 4 years ago and lost 35 pounds. Since then I have had another baby and can’t seem to get it anywhere for a reasonable price.If anyone knows where I can get it please let me know.I just can’t afford 2-4 hundred dollars! Please help me!!!

37 Cedric July 20, 2005 at 12:47 pm

I have found two websites that sell Ripped Fuel and the Stacker II. But I am looking for the Hydroxycut. Does anyone have a clue where I can buy some. It seems like everyone has sold out of it.

38 Cedric July 21, 2005 at 11:34 am

I still havent found any Hydroxycut with ephedra. If you have any to sell or know of a website that sells it, please email me or post any comments. you may have.

39 Bette July 21, 2005 at 3:10 pm

I’m looking to purchase Ephedra for my husband who has Pompe’s Disease(a form of Muscular Dystrophy) A doctor who is researching this disease recommends it. Anyone out there know where we can order it from outside the USA?? E-mai us if possible. Please help. Thanks

40 Traci July 22, 2005 at 11:04 pm

I am looking to but metobolife 356 or metoblite PLEASE help me. I have gianed 40lbs in the last year since I have stopped.

Thanks

41 Traci July 23, 2005 at 9:14 pm

Thank you so much Graciemay I will try them.

42 Julia July 24, 2005 at 1:23 am

for ephedra purchases i went to buyepedraonline just fyi

43 Cheryl July 24, 2005 at 10:04 pm

i was taking matabolite ephedra and i was keeping my weight off. Since they stopped putting ephedra in diet pills i have gained my wight back. i have trued several diet pills and none of them work. I feel like I am just throwing my money away. Why did they take the ephedra out, as long as you took them like you are suppose to then everything is alright. I took them for 3 yrs and nothing is wrong with me.

44 sarah beth July 25, 2005 at 11:24 pm

I completely agree with all the postings! Since i have stopped taking Xenadrine rfa-1 w/ ephedra i have slowly gain all my weight back. I too am very sad and feel as if i am being punnished for others misuse of the pills. Can we do anything to get it back? Or if anyone knows where i might be able to find these diet pill please let me know.

45 Graciemay July 26, 2005 at 2:15 am

I swear it’s a conspiracy. I say shame on the FDA and their scare tactics. They’re barking up the wrong tree if you ask me.

It sure feels like the vast majority of us ARE being punished…and for what? The misuse of this beneficial herb by a minute segment of the population. This has given all ephedra products a bad reputation.

The truth will prevail and I predict that Metabolife 356-like products will make a strong come-back shortly, and a legal one at that! In the mean time I am forced to spend hard-earned money “shopping around” for products that say they are similar to Metabolife 356. I will let all know asap if/when I find something even remotely close to it :)

46 Melanie July 26, 2005 at 5:56 am

I have read through the posts and checked out the sites mentioned but I was wondering if anyone had some follow up. Those that have ordered could you please let me know from where and if you got the product and how it is working for you? I am on such a tight budget that I cant afford to experiment with online sellers to find a trustworthy one so any imput would be totally appreciated.

Melanie

Lost 26 lbs on Metabolife

Lost total of 5 on South Beach, Weight Watchers and starvation.

47 Graciemay July 27, 2005 at 6:52 pm

I’m so disappointed. I have been using Trim-S for 2-3 days now, taken as directed, and I experienced NO EFFECTS whatsoever, good or bad! I now feel ripped-off and very angry.

If anyone else has experienced this with Trim-S, plz. post here for all to see. I just emailed the company and hope they will respond…I’ll keep you posted on this.

I’m still waiting for Powerthin to arrive. I will never give up trying!

48 Graciemay July 28, 2005 at 6:23 pm

Hi Melanie W….Lipodrene works well for me. It helps to control my over-active appetite, too. I decided to try it for the first time yesterday while I waited for the Powerthin to arrive, which I just received today. I will give Powerthin a try tomorrow and keep you posted on what I think. The Lipodrene sat in my cabinet for a couple of weeks because I “assumed” the 25mg dose of natural ephedra in one tablet might be too much for me but it’s proving to do a great job with appetite and gives a mild energy boost too. There’s also Hoodia Extract (cactus), among other ingredients too numerous to mention here.

As for Trim-S, the company I ordered it from is working to remedy the problem by offering to send me a bottle of something similar that may be better for me. I like their willingness to meet their customers more than half-way. What a relief and I no longer feel angry or ripped-off since they’re being very reasonable about it. Take care everyone. Anyone else out there with experiences with Lipodrene &/or Powerthin, I’d love to hear what you think :)

49 Megan July 28, 2005 at 9:33 pm

Hello Graciemay, i too am taking powerthin i like it so far, although i am not loseing weight as fast as i was when i took metab-o-lite before ephedra went off the shelves….. powerthin is comparable though! tell me what you think of it!

50 Graciemay July 29, 2005 at 4:20 am

Thanks Megan. I hope others will post their personal experiences with Powerthin and Lipodrene or anything else that’s been successful for them and works similar to Metabolife 356 or Metabo-Lite.

This forum is awesome!

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