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		<title>By: LeeAnn</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeeAnn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My question to all this is its march 2005 and its still going on I have been getting these ntoices and bills from them, and besides reporting them like I see so many have done what really is being done to stop this. I am just upset with the fact that if we are they fdral whatever knows that this company is afraud then why haven&#039;t they been made to re-pay those bill payemts to the people. Yes I am the dumb one that payed the first bill but today I recieve another for the same magazine I did not order for a different amount. will someone please tell me what a oerson is to do if it does no good to call. I myself summited a letter to the State genral attorney office in IL. what the use.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question to all this is its march 2005 and its still going on I have been getting these ntoices and bills from them, and besides reporting them like I see so many have done what really is being done to stop this. I am just upset with the fact that if we are they fdral whatever knows that this company is afraud then why haven&#8217;t they been made to re-pay those bill payemts to the people. Yes I am the dumb one that payed the first bill but today I recieve another for the same magazine I did not order for a different amount. will someone please tell me what a oerson is to do if it does no good to call. I myself summited a letter to the State genral attorney office in IL. what the use.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2005 13:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William (or anyone with similar questions),

Run a search for:

San Jose estate planning,NADN

or:

Chris Tulino,NADN

either search should lead you to some good information to help you with this mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William (or anyone with similar questions),</p>
<p>Run a search for:</p>
<p>San Jose estate planning,NADN</p>
<p>or:</p>
<p>Chris Tulino,NADN</p>
<p>either search should lead you to some good information to help you with this mess.</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
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		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2005 18:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Is ther any class action suit or the like pending againest nadn I was told I,d get a refund .But no dice Thanks William</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Is ther any class action suit or the like pending againest nadn I was told I,d get a refund .But no dice Thanks William</p>
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		<title>By: Marguerite Redfearn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marguerite Redfearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also heard about NADNon the radio station and needed some tax assistance so I called for the free book. The station WBAB talk radion has alwasys been very reputable and I didn&#039;t think they would represent a deciteful company like this one. NADN employee&#039;s are all scam artists.I am very frustrated and disappointed as I thought this was a reputable company. I had tried for months to contact them with no response. They have done noting for me except take my money. I am hoping that somehow we all get back the money they took from us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also heard about NADNon the radio station and needed some tax assistance so I called for the free book. The station WBAB talk radion has alwasys been very reputable and I didn&#8217;t think they would represent a deciteful company like this one. NADN employee&#8217;s are all scam artists.I am very frustrated and disappointed as I thought this was a reputable company. I had tried for months to contact them with no response. They have done noting for me except take my money. I am hoping that somehow we all get back the money they took from us.</p>
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		<title>By: michelle hawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>michelle hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2004 00:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I joined NADN in 2001 for $540, spent $500 for tax prep, and purchased 3 years of shopn2000.com, so i guess you could say I&#039;m a sucker altho when you have former tax attorneys and former IRS agents etc who knows all the red tape and the sales agent saying &quot;you can save on your taxes for the 1st couple of years with all these benifits then the website will take off, the money you make in the business will pay the promissory note (the note for 2001 was almost pd off) as well as the 1099 taxes&quot; they will work with me all i have to do is advertise, which i then bought the hit generator for $1500. how could you not think that it was a great deal this company already went through the red tape for me and they are giving me all the benefits right now plus the money i was spending was coming back to me in taxes for the 1st 3 years. now im out my life savings and i owe all the taxed back. I have contacted 2 tax attorney and they tell me i have to amend my taxes as tho i never had a business. i don&#039;t have the money for the taxes and i cant claim bankruptcy on my business cuz  that would be fraud (how did NADN do then?) I dont know where to file a claim against NADN (I have a proof of claim form, but I&#039;m not sure of how to fill it out) and i feel there is something i sould be able to claim on my amended taxes. HOW IS THIS A FRAUDULENT BUSINESS when there were companys advertising on the mall and business was being done? anybody have any suggestions? hawkeyes2@prodigy.net.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I joined NADN in 2001 for $540, spent $500 for tax prep, and purchased 3 years of shopn2000.com, so i guess you could say I&#8217;m a sucker altho when you have former tax attorneys and former IRS agents etc who knows all the red tape and the sales agent saying &#8220;you can save on your taxes for the 1st couple of years with all these benifits then the website will take off, the money you make in the business will pay the promissory note (the note for 2001 was almost pd off) as well as the 1099 taxes&#8221; they will work with me all i have to do is advertise, which i then bought the hit generator for $1500. how could you not think that it was a great deal this company already went through the red tape for me and they are giving me all the benefits right now plus the money i was spending was coming back to me in taxes for the 1st 3 years. now im out my life savings and i owe all the taxed back. I have contacted 2 tax attorney and they tell me i have to amend my taxes as tho i never had a business. i don&#8217;t have the money for the taxes and i cant claim bankruptcy on my business cuz  that would be fraud (how did NADN do then?) I dont know where to file a claim against NADN (I have a proof of claim form, but I&#8217;m not sure of how to fill it out) and i feel there is something i sould be able to claim on my amended taxes. HOW IS THIS A FRAUDULENT BUSINESS when there were companys advertising on the mall and business was being done? anybody have any suggestions? <a href="mailto:hawkeyes2@prodigy.net">hawkeyes2@prodigy.net</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every once and a while I sway from my personal policy of not trying to deal with opinionated name-calling types on an intellectual level. I think Tax Dude validates the worth of that policy. I’m sure Tax Dud is back for comment, now that he finished that 1040EZ refresher course, and we get to enjoy his wit and wisdom again. I’m happy to see that his name-calling bag has yielded a few new vocabulary entries. I wonder if he only has the “Playground” version of “the bag”?

For others…NADN claimed its “ex-IRS” affiliation for years without the IRS issuing a word of warning. The “Virtual Malls” were marketed with for years, with the ADA tax credit feature in place, without a peep from the IRS. Today, to their credit, the IRS has this series at: 

 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=106472,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=106472,00.html&lt;/a&gt;

Hopefully this URL might help new visitors to this page, but that series wasn’t there in time to help with the problem when we were “checking” it out. Apparently the IRS, who “is” the authority on the subject, saw no clear problem at the same time most of us saw no clear problem with this company and its tax preparation or strategies.

With the breakdown of secure job status in the US &amp; with the outsourcing of jobs to other countries many have been trying to “feel out” new sources of income. The Internet is still a promising frontier. There seem to be a number of IRS accepted internet/virtual-mall type businesses out there. There are also businesses that do qualify for the ADA tax credit. The possibility that, as a “professional” organization, NADN put those two things together is not a far-fetched idea. That people were paying an exorbitant amount for these malls with ADA modifications, in my mind, is a valid observation. That is biased with the realization that what was received in return for payment was much less than what was promised or expected.  Basically, the “x” money “equals” the “y” product “formula” did not materialize.

Ask yourself if it was horrible to try to enter a business that also helped handicapped persons. If  “horrible”, I guess it’s getting harder to do anything good in this world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every once and a while I sway from my personal policy of not trying to deal with opinionated name-calling types on an intellectual level. I think Tax Dude validates the worth of that policy. I’m sure Tax Dud is back for comment, now that he finished that 1040EZ refresher course, and we get to enjoy his wit and wisdom again. I’m happy to see that his name-calling bag has yielded a few new vocabulary entries. I wonder if he only has the “Playground” version of “the bag”?</p>
<p>For others…NADN claimed its “ex-IRS” affiliation for years without the IRS issuing a word of warning. The “Virtual Malls” were marketed with for years, with the ADA tax credit feature in place, without a peep from the IRS. Today, to their credit, the IRS has this series at: </p>
<p> <a href="http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=106472,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=106472,00.html</a></p>
<p>Hopefully this URL might help new visitors to this page, but that series wasn’t there in time to help with the problem when we were “checking” it out. Apparently the IRS, who “is” the authority on the subject, saw no clear problem at the same time most of us saw no clear problem with this company and its tax preparation or strategies.</p>
<p>With the breakdown of secure job status in the US &amp; with the outsourcing of jobs to other countries many have been trying to “feel out” new sources of income. The Internet is still a promising frontier. There seem to be a number of IRS accepted internet/virtual-mall type businesses out there. There are also businesses that do qualify for the ADA tax credit. The possibility that, as a “professional” organization, NADN put those two things together is not a far-fetched idea. That people were paying an exorbitant amount for these malls with ADA modifications, in my mind, is a valid observation. That is biased with the realization that what was received in return for payment was much less than what was promised or expected.  Basically, the “x” money “equals” the “y” product “formula” did not materialize.</p>
<p>Ask yourself if it was horrible to try to enter a business that also helped handicapped persons. If  “horrible”, I guess it’s getting harder to do anything good in this world.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2004 12:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tax Dude,

So are you saying that everyone that wants to do business with you as a CPA/Tax expert should contact the IRS first to make sure that you are legit and are giving sound advise? Why would anyone think that your single Certification would make you anymore of an expert than the &quot;Team&quot; of CPA&#039;s, Tax Lawyers &amp; others that came from the ranks of the IRS where even you &quot;PeepMaster&quot; have suggested that we should have gone? Are you saying that when employees leave the IRS for the private sector they suddenly don&#039;t know about tax code anymore? If the people you see here were intentional tax cheats then you wouldn&#039;t be seeing lawsuits against NADN &amp; Oryan Management. Are all of your clients &quot;peeps&quot; because the don&#039;t know tax code? Nice attitude, Dude! If you advised them to do something illegal or outside of code and charged for your services wouldn&#039;t you expect to be sued?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tax Dude,</p>
<p>So are you saying that everyone that wants to do business with you as a CPA/Tax expert should contact the IRS first to make sure that you are legit and are giving sound advise? Why would anyone think that your single Certification would make you anymore of an expert than the &#8220;Team&#8221; of CPA&#8217;s, Tax Lawyers &amp; others that came from the ranks of the IRS where even you &#8220;PeepMaster&#8221; have suggested that we should have gone? Are you saying that when employees leave the IRS for the private sector they suddenly don&#8217;t know about tax code anymore? If the people you see here were intentional tax cheats then you wouldn&#8217;t be seeing lawsuits against NADN &amp; Oryan Management. Are all of your clients &#8220;peeps&#8221; because the don&#8217;t know tax code? Nice attitude, Dude! If you advised them to do something illegal or outside of code and charged for your services wouldn&#8217;t you expect to be sued?</p>
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		<title>By: Angry Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angry Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2004 00:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary Wilson,

I could not have said it better in your response to &quot;Tax Dude&quot;. &quot;Tax Dude&quot; reminds me of the stuff my baby leaves behind in her diaper. Gary, we could use you in our law suit. Send me an email at angryguyatnadn@hotmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary Wilson,</p>
<p>I could not have said it better in your response to &#8220;Tax Dude&#8221;. &#8220;Tax Dude&#8221; reminds me of the stuff my baby leaves behind in her diaper. Gary, we could use you in our law suit. Send me an email at <a href="mailto:angryguyatnadn@hotmail.com">angryguyatnadn@hotmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gary Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2004 17:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tax Dude,

I don&#039;t know enough about you to call you names, however from what you have written I get a mental picture of a guy doing Tax Returns, as a sideline, at a surf shop. This is not how I judged NADN.  Please give me a better picture of yourself.  Perhaps you could start by unveiling your credentials for minimal comparison to the following Editorial Review for &quot;The Guaranteed Tax Savings System (2001 Edition)” at Amazon.com:

&quot;Robert Bennington is nationally recognized as an entrepreneur and an expert on taxation and the IRS. He is currently President or CEO of three companies that employ over 300 people and specialize in tax strategies that have helped over 60,000 Americans save nearly one hundred million dollars in new tax deductions. He has appeared as an expert on the IRS on more than 1,000 radio and TV shows including CNN, Hard Copy, and ABC News. Ernst and Young named Robert and his business partner, Cort Christie, Entrepreneurs of the Year in 1999 for emerging business people.&quot; 

Apparently all those &quot;respected&quot; News, Information &amp; Professional organizations collectively did not have the mental alacrity to exceed the individual mentality of a &quot;peep&quot; or an  &quot;idiot&quot; in questioning relative credentials. 

I remind you that the people that you have attacked here were involved with NADN to remain on the legal side through NADN&#039;s purported expertise and council and not to recklessly defy tax code. The tax aspect was supposed to be a dot the I&#039;s and cross the T&#039;s type of relationship. NADN supposedly researched and developed these &quot;Tax Strategies&quot;, not their clients. NADN &amp; affiliates like Oryan Management obviously failed to produce workable products/strategies but succeeded at misleading many individuals for &quot;profit&quot;. As far as the &quot;fine print&quot; goes, many here tried to back out &amp; cancel in the beginning (look at FTC&#039;s lawsuit on that subject).  Finding themselves stuck through deceptive default tactics, some ate the initial cost, but others chose to &quot;make lemonade&quot; by following NADN&#039;s strategies. 

So if you are not an ex-employee of NADN/Oryan or the likes striking out at the people who are after you for what you have done; Then please explain what level of expertise, or involvement, that you have that qualifies you to be Judge &amp; Jury over the people posting here. With the credentials available, under what rationale would you have expected NADN to develop an undefendable tax strategy?  FYI, NADN&#039;s &quot;help&quot; for &quot;defendable&quot; support was supposed to stop at the &quot;Tax Court&quot; door. That means a Tax Attorney after that. Because it is counterintuitive to me, I am very interested in your professional take on what you think would motivate a person to pay money to knowingly become a tax cheat with all the known risks, fees &amp; penalties involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tax Dude,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know enough about you to call you names, however from what you have written I get a mental picture of a guy doing Tax Returns, as a sideline, at a surf shop. This is not how I judged NADN.  Please give me a better picture of yourself.  Perhaps you could start by unveiling your credentials for minimal comparison to the following Editorial Review for &#8220;The Guaranteed Tax Savings System (2001 Edition)” at Amazon.com:</p>
<p>&#8220;Robert Bennington is nationally recognized as an entrepreneur and an expert on taxation and the IRS. He is currently President or CEO of three companies that employ over 300 people and specialize in tax strategies that have helped over 60,000 Americans save nearly one hundred million dollars in new tax deductions. He has appeared as an expert on the IRS on more than 1,000 radio and TV shows including CNN, Hard Copy, and ABC News. Ernst and Young named Robert and his business partner, Cort Christie, Entrepreneurs of the Year in 1999 for emerging business people.&#8221; </p>
<p>Apparently all those &#8220;respected&#8221; News, Information &amp; Professional organizations collectively did not have the mental alacrity to exceed the individual mentality of a &#8220;peep&#8221; or an  &#8220;idiot&#8221; in questioning relative credentials. </p>
<p>I remind you that the people that you have attacked here were involved with NADN to remain on the legal side through NADN&#8217;s purported expertise and council and not to recklessly defy tax code. The tax aspect was supposed to be a dot the I&#8217;s and cross the T&#8217;s type of relationship. NADN supposedly researched and developed these &#8220;Tax Strategies&#8221;, not their clients. NADN &amp; affiliates like Oryan Management obviously failed to produce workable products/strategies but succeeded at misleading many individuals for &#8220;profit&#8221;. As far as the &#8220;fine print&#8221; goes, many here tried to back out &amp; cancel in the beginning (look at FTC&#8217;s lawsuit on that subject).  Finding themselves stuck through deceptive default tactics, some ate the initial cost, but others chose to &#8220;make lemonade&#8221; by following NADN&#8217;s strategies. </p>
<p>So if you are not an ex-employee of NADN/Oryan or the likes striking out at the people who are after you for what you have done; Then please explain what level of expertise, or involvement, that you have that qualifies you to be Judge &amp; Jury over the people posting here. With the credentials available, under what rationale would you have expected NADN to develop an undefendable tax strategy?  FYI, NADN&#8217;s &#8220;help&#8221; for &#8220;defendable&#8221; support was supposed to stop at the &#8220;Tax Court&#8221; door. That means a Tax Attorney after that. Because it is counterintuitive to me, I am very interested in your professional take on what you think would motivate a person to pay money to knowingly become a tax cheat with all the known risks, fees &amp; penalties involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Angry Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angry Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2004 02:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are interesting in being a plaintiff in a class action lawsuit against Oryan then please email me for more information: angryguyatnadn@hotmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are interesting in being a plaintiff in a class action lawsuit against Oryan then please email me for more information: <a href="mailto:angryguyatnadn@hotmail.com">angryguyatnadn@hotmail.com</a></p>
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